POPULAR WORSHIP MINISTRY CULTURE: REV 2 CHURCH OF EPHESIANS REVISITED #2

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“There is a God in heaven who reveals secrets.” Daniel 2:28

I did not tell you all of these things for you to reward me and to make me well known and famous but so that God would reveal to you what lies inside your own heart.” Daniel 2:30 *
*Paraphrase of the servant true prophet Daniel to the mentally hardened, spiritually dull and imperceptive, ruler  King Nebuchadnezzar.

POPULAR WORSHIP MINISTRY CULTURE: 

THE REVELATION CHURCH OF EPHESUS REVISITED #2

NOTE: In the previous CHURCH OF EPHESUS REVISTED #1, the writer began to build a bridge toward  rediscovering “pure organic” Bible Ministry culture (minus traditional, legalistic, human MIXTURE)  and its accompanying true Spiritual Doctrine.

Our end purposes are  to directly  help senior apostles, pastors, other ministry offices  clarity, to accurately discern and to perceive the Organic, True, Pure Christ, the purposes of accepting Him as Lord and Savior, the God intended reasons for establishing the 5 fold office senior pioneering ministry and the Father’s design in commanding a NON LEGALISTIC, NON HUMAN TRADITIONAL “do not forsake the fellowshipping with the saints.”

Admittedly, we may need to write about this (over all) GIANT IMPOSING TOPIC  in tiny bits and pieces forever, to even attempt to scratch the surface, and the writer fully admits that she has only been granted all of this through many very long pioneering Bible Studying, making inquiries of the Lord and wise pastoral , Board member counsel and then hearing directly what “the Lord would say to the Churches, to all who have ears to spiritually hear.”

And the writer yields each of these in humble,  applied Ephesians 5:21, James 3:17 Bible respectful Selah form.

This apostolic discussion of the POPULAR MINISTRY WORSHIP CULTURE: REVELATION 2 CHURCH OF EPHESUS REVISITED, also attempts to (nonlegalistically, without any apostolic patricianism)  serve fellow ministers around the Body of Christ by provoking new nontraditional, non legalistic,attempting to be James 3:17, NON dogmatic, realistic, acutely perceptive new leader realistic apostolic thought.

And the CHURCH OF EPHESUS REVISITED concept, will then set the stage for the upcoming discussion on OLD TESTAMENT LEVITICAL PATRIARCHISM IN THESE NEW TESTAMENT NONLEGALISTIC FREE DAYS. (so keep checking back on this TD Blog)

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THE OVER ALL UNFOLDING IFFM PRESENTATION:

BOANERGE WORSHIP MINISTRY AND THE AFFECT OF MEDIA, PATRICIANISM

POPULAR WORSHIP CULTURE MINISTRY: REV 2 CHURCH OF EPHESUS REVISITED,

OT LEVITICAL PATRIARCHISM and more….

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THE QUESTION: What had happened within  the Church of Ephesus, written about by Apostle Paul in the Book of the Ephesians, and the Lampstand rebuke by the Holy Spirit in Revelation 2:1-7?

WHAT went ON in the multicultural,certainly eclectic, cultural, worship melting pot of the forming Organic  Ephesians  local assembly? And what eventually happened in it and to it to make it the very first Lampstand which was rebuked by the Lord in the Revelation 2:1-7?

WHAT WENT ON among the leaders? Out in the congregation? Coming in from the local region?

AND MAJORLY:  What went on in the LEADER IN APOSTOLIC  IN CHURCH LEADER DOCTRINES to turn from such a ORGANIC FIRST CHURCH to a BIG LAMPSTAND  MIXTURE (MESS?) in Revelations 2?

NOW, TAKE A PAUSE to read, to compare and contrast:

RISING TRUE “ORGANIC”  CHURCH EPHESIANS 2: 14- 5:21  (Paul’s Ephesians letter describing Unified Corporate Leader Body True Community (Ephesians 2:14- Ephesians 5:21, clearly noting the enormous censure of what chapter 4 fully declares as God’s command for apostolic, true body, mutual submission, corporate no big egos, non denominational, non divided, Spirit, Common leader doctrine UNIFIED “corporate, leader covering, indeed ‘spiritual Holy Spirit leader covering, Fathering Faith”…..AND CHURCH OF EPHESIANS Revelation 2:1-7.

THE BIG QUESTION:

WHAT HAPPENED in the church, to the leaders, in the midst of their daily hard lives, religious cross cultural leader work, in the BOOK OF EPHESIANS Church of Ephesus to make it turn so spiritually imperceptive, lacking in natural human self less empathy and true caring compassion, a Church founded on the non legalistic perceived Great Granted Grace of the Risen Lord Jesus Christ, His overcoming blood and supernatural intrinsic power…

……to make the Church of Ephesus lose it’s luster, and fall from being Grace, Perceiver, Discerner, First Love senior ministry to over worked, hard minded, legalists who snap accused, Phariseeically over saw “legalistically watched” and were callous, self oriented, hard minded, satisfied with self, works oriented, spiritually insensitive, spiritually driven and superior  proud?

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REVELATION 2:1-7 THE REBUKE OF THE CHURCH OF EPHESUS

The Loss of First Real Love, Non Genuine Works Based Church

Let’s read Book of Revelation 2:1-7 about the Lampstand (senior overseer apostle, senior pastor) of the Church of Ephesus:

“Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;

I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:

And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name’s sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.

Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.

Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.

But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.”

** Reminder: The same Church of Book of Ephesians! Ask God why happened?

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REVELATION 2:1-7 EXPOUNDED:

VERSE 1: ‘These things says He who holds the seven stars** in His right hand, who walks in the midst of the seven golden lampstands**:

**Read: The 7 Spirits of God Isaiah 11:2 and ask HOW MANY of God’s 7 flaming, flickering manifold Lampstand Spirits do I see in Christ’s Church today? And in my own Lampstand? Lifestyle?

And let us each  pray for an increase  and MORE in all of us!

VERSE 2A “I know your works,** your labor,** your patience**, and that you cannot bear those who are evil**

**POINT: God respects what they are doing RIGHT: 1) hard work 2) extreme enduring longsuffering apostolic patience 3) won’t tolerate, compromise to please those who are against the Gospel, who actively condone, promote and willingly engage in Bible definition of Sin.

VERSE 2 B: “And you have tested those who say they are apostles** and are not, and have found them liars”

GOD praises the Ephesians Lampstand for not swallowing every other “sent messengers”Bible doctrine, works, or reputation SPIRITUAL KOOL AID  HE approves them for actively studying, what all spiritual authorities “guides” or gifted speakers TEACH, perhaps in accords with the comments of Apostle Paul who commended the  Noble Bereans for even taking Paul’s own doctrines and seeing if THEY were “really so” that means, IF what Paul said and wrote,  was in accord with what  the Bible teaches.

VERSE 3 “…and you have persevered and have patience, and have labored for My name’s sake and have not become weary”

God respects and commends them (in modern IFFM lingo) “For taking an apostolic First Church licking and keeping on ticking”

VERSE 4: “Nevertheless I have this against you*, that you have left your first love.**”

* FATHER GOD’S “UH OH…” : I have this against YOU….

** YOU have left (implying ME/HIM) “your FIRST REAL LOVE”

**Father God specifically tells the servant PROPHETS in Amos 3:7 “God does nothing unless He first tells his servants, the (listening, waiting, perceptive, seerish) prophets.”

** Paul writes that the Church depends upon the Office Gifts of the office of the APOSTLE and the PROPHET to “hear what God is saying to the Church” “to give His heavy revelation spiritual doctrine downloads to VERY FIRST” so that then they can help form character, set God’s Ministry Mission and fullfill the Great Commission (in True Over All Body Corporate Community True Peace and Unity : Book of apostolic Ephesians House To House Corporate /Leaders Community/ Provision Style)

THUS it is dire, very crucial that 5 fold OFFICE WORK PLANTERS CULTIVATE SET APART “APOSTOLIC FIRST REAL LOVE” ongoing set  apart Lampstand, real Lifestyle for all the above Bible, wise chief PURPOSES.

FIRST REAL LOVE (meaning: coming from the Lampstand Leader to the Lord)  “I just love sitting around being WITH YOU, not for what I can GET from YOU..but to BE WITH YOU, to hear FROM YOU and to experience YOUR LOVING PEACE, COMFORT , REFRESHING with FRESH manna from YOUR “Spirit of wisdom and revelation” (in the knowledge of YOU” (corny Ephesians paraphrase..)

Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent**

** Modern Popular Worship Culture, which views themselves as “being right” usually have a deep difficulty with the any mention of 5 fold office “taking personal ownership” and “repenting” in a traditional Bible view. Example, no more does one ever hear any of the following regarded at conferences, gatherings, local first church assemblies: 2 Chronicles 7:14, Proverbs 1:7, Ephesians 2:14-5:21, James 3:17, Ephesians 4 (deep study), and  Matthew 18:15, Rather “Matthew 18 upfront holding another pastor, person is misinterpreted as ‘being unforgiving, having baggage, being mean spirited, accusative , projecting “a spirit of condemnation.”
And any mention of a need for 5 fold ministry to REPENT, To self humble, even when advising them to re-read 2 Timothy 3: 16, this and the following other “non bless me”maturing, real relationship Bible verses must evidently have been conveniently clipped out of what ever Bible their Bless Me Club is now using. (2 Chronicles, 7: 14, Proverbs 1:7, Book of Ephesians, mainly in deep depth 2:14, Chapter 4, 5:21/”easily intreatable” James 3:17/”upfront” one on  one respectful, mature leader,  confrontation Matthew 18:15-18) and any “humbling” “reproving” and “leader repentance.)

Repeatedly, it (strongly) appears that New Testament Bible  reproof, much less, correction is again misinterpreted as “having a contentious divisive unloving Spirit.”

OR if one ever dares to confront a ministry team member for Bible accountable human sin, the Number One Favorite, across much of  grass roots  5 fold so called ‘being in the ministry” is to accusatively bounce back with very righteously and major confidently with , “But…I am the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus.”

SUMMARY: this senior apostolic ministry pastoral, minister accusative, shifting accuser blame, very subtly, but super strongly declares: “I/we can live like, I/we please,avoiding being held personally responsible, pastoral blame shifting, senior ministry  toleration (meaning on stage ministry members)  ministry illicit cohabitation, massive deception, lying, even stealing.”

So hence, this is much of what God allowed me the grass roots ministry newbie occasions to repeatedly eye witness.(7-8 Good Ole Folks times)

BELIEVE YOU THIS WRITER: in the last 5 -7 pioneering years I repeatedly discovers what GRASS ROOTS MINISTRY LEADER DOCTRINES are now mass producing. (maybe I’ll do another blog just on this type of thing…at a later appointed leader time)


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VERSE 5 C (FATHER”S  UH OH….)  “or ELSE I will come to you quickly and remove your lampstand from its place—unless you repent.


*OR ELSE (Holy Spirit really truly means business! As this is NOT legalistic Game Playing, Make Believe Ministry: The LORD  has JESUS good Name and Spotless Reputation on the Line)

** .. I will come quickly  “The Lord will come like a thief in the night.” as a prime example

*** “and remove your lampstand from its place.” Big Reminder: it is the LORD’S LAMPSTAND and not ours or any apostolic humans. AND the Local Lampstand CHURCH represents the LORD to the local grass roots regions…

…so thus  when a LAMPSTAND is Spiritually Mature, filled with the Fear of the Lord, when it resembles the Isaiah 11: 2 non Accusative Jesus and it respects, welcomes hosts of eclectic true persons, then it well represents the FATHER and He is accepted, and accurately perceived and is thus pleased!

A HEALTHY Spiritual Lampstand is a true Beacon of Living Light in accusative, dark real world local regions.

SO if the LORD, Jesus Christ, Messiah, is accurately spiritually /maturely well represented, then it assists the spread of the Gospel, as it (the local assembly , it’s organic leader, congregation’s fruit) can either make the name of JESUS CHRIST well known as a Sweet Smelling Accepting Savior OR can be falsely misrepresented by the STENCH of accusing, hyping, human tradition, legalism or accuser enabling ministry FALL OUT.

Thus can’t anyone agree that in order to win the Lost that God must remove each Stinky Fruit Accuser Lampstand as HE/SHE is  putting forth a Stumbling Block which hinders, blocks, the TRUE VIEW of an Organic Jesus Christ, who “went about doing good, healing all that were oppressed by the devil” in servant leader, Acts 10:38 ministry office style.

And can’t each of us agree that God’s Good ongoing Name and the reputation of what ought to be viewed as HIS Local House, also be well protected…as it needs to be remembered that THE LORD’S OWN REPUTATION  is on the line…

AND that the FINAL DAY is now nearer than ever…

….thus the TIME to acknowledge Jesus Christ is limited..indeed VERY SHORT… and that ETERNITY LOOMS CLOSER with  MANY many millions of human real souls are on the line RIGHT THIS MOMENT!

THE IFFM CHIEF APOSTLE SENSES THIS IMPENDING:

Thus Father God is going to really move to Sweep Out the Church (and as the 2013 IFFM overseer word of the Lord came, “God is going to clean out (what ought be regarded as ) HIS barns, to make them ready for many more sheep.”

(also Amos 3:7 and “2013 True Body of Christ: Accuser FREE in TWO THOUSAND ONE THREE” )

VERSE  5“and remove your lampstand from its place, UNLESS** you repent.”

**Nuff said.

VERSE 6  But this you have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans,** which I also hate.”

** no more time…will explain the DOCTRINE OF THE NICOLAITANS in terms of Modern Popular Worship Culture Ministry in the next edition of so.

“He who has an ear, let him hear **what the Spirit says to the churches.***

** He who has an ear, let him ear: This implies a Spiritually Attuned, clearly discerning, accurately perceiving, Bible balanced, non legalistic, non human all wise ministry MIXTURE “made up already seen it all, know it all, heard it all Preconceived Hard Mental Ministry Mind.”

***The Spirit says to the Churches : the Maker, Designer, Holy Lampstand Originator, who preexisted before religion, spiritual leader doctrines in Isaiah 11:2 7 Fold Spirit Lamp Stand Creator, Head Over Seer Formless Apostolic Emotionally Straight Forward Applied Both Assertive Type A and reflective, creating Type B Leader Form.

VERSE 7: To him who overcomes** I will give to eat from the tree of life, which is in the midst of the Paradise of God.”

“To him/her who overcomes” **

Q. WHAT IS overcoming? (no time to deeply expound, but leave the following for pondering SELAH. Overcoming is found in the Bible in Revelation:

  • REV  3: 7 The Philadelphian Brotherly, Sisterly Love Walk Lampstand was decribed as OVER COMING.
  • REV  12:11 “They over came “HIM” (the accuser, deceiver) by the blood of the Lamb, the word of their testimony and they love not their lives unto death.” (NOTE one entire blog will be ACCURATELY REPRESENTING THE MESSIAH VERSUS RESEMBLING THE MASTER ACCUSER.

With all of this stated, we surely have not even  scratched the surface. But I do hope some of this will be FOOD FOR REALISTIC THOUGHT.

Again, IFFM Ministries is NOT called to be hard nosed, biased or overly religiously dogmatic, yet applies James 3:17 spiritual fruit and respectfully submits each Bible point of view to you, any reader, to go to do their own Noble Berean Bible Research and then to ingest what is HAY but to abandon what YOU perceive, discern to be fruitless STUBBLE.

Many senior pioneering blessings!
Taveau

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Next Blog:

PC WORSHIP MINISTRY CULTURE: REV 2 CHURCH OF EPHESUS REVISITED  #3

More in depth regarding:

  • APOSTOLIC REASONS for choosing NOT to Losing Ones First Real LOVE: Faith, Fruit and Spiritual Fallout
  • 2  TIMOTHY 3:1-5 APOSTOLIC LEADERSHIP, “Is there a current Falling Away or a Running Away?
  • DOCTRINES OF THE NICOLATIANS What?
  • THE IMPERCEPTIVE ELI HIGH PRIESTHOOD: Pastor of the Revelation 2 Church of Ephesus Revisited
  •   APOSTOLIC TRUE UNITY AND SPIRITUAL TURF PROTECTING : ME CENTERED “BUILDING MY OWN MINISTRY”
  • ARE WE ROLE MODELING THE NON ACCUSATIVE ISAIAH 11:3 MESSIAH OR  ENABLING THE ACCUSER?
  • MOSAIC MINISTRY APPLICATION:
  • Exodus 20:3,”I will have no other gods before me”
  • Ex 20: 7: “I will not hold them guiltless who use My name in vain.”ARE WE TAKING THE LORD’S NAME IN VAIN?  False Representation of the Good Spotless, Non Accusative Name of Christ, aka the Messiah of Isaiah 11:3
  • ABIDING “HOLY FEAR OF THE REALISTIC LIVING LORD”: PARTY LAMPSHADES OR WORSHIP LAMPSTANDS?

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